Playstation 4 Specs Guide



Complete PS4 Specs (Continually Updated) CPU, GPU, Memory, Storage, Ports

Sony’s PlayStation 4 was first announced on February 20, 2013, during a press conference where the hardware capabilities and multimedia tech of the eighth generation console were shown off in addition to the design of the new PS4 controller. Surprisingly, the PS4 console was not seen during the unveiling event although highlight reels and trailers of next generation games running on the system were used to benchmark its potential. This was because the final design specs were still being finalized...

Sony released a 39-second video teaser on May 20, 2013, on their official YouTube channel showcasing some of the slick new designs going into the console. They still did not reveal the entire console though because reasons. Darn those mega-jerks at Sony for not revealing how different the console will totally look from the previous generation.

The console was officially revealed before mortal eyes on June 10, 2013, during Sony’s panel at the E3 Expo. It was announced during the event that the console will retail for $399 US/€399/£349/$549 AUD this holiday season. You've got to love the amazing troll skills utilized by Sony when it came to DRM-free gaming and no online authentication every 24 hours.

On August 20, 2013, Sony confirmed the release date for the PlayStation 4 as November 15, 2013 for North America and November 29, 2013 for Europe. To make up for the later release date, European owners of the PS4 will be given a 14 day trial of PS Plus for free without any restrictions.

Sony also announced that certain games bought on the PS3 like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Assassin's Creed IV, and Watchdogs will be discounted on the PS4 through digital downloads if the player wants to upgrade.

Check out the handy table below for the full specs on the PS4 as they currently stand.

PlayStation 4 Console Specs
Feature PS4
CPU AMD x86 Jaguar 1.6GHZ 8-Core
GPU AMD next-generation Radeon-based graphics engine - The PlayStation 4 will reportedly be capable of producing up to 1.84 TFLOPS.
RAM 8GB of GDDR5 - The PlayStation 4 uses a unified 8 GB GDDR5 RAM setup (the current processing is speed unknown). The VRAM and OS RAM will share the memory pool.

However, it has been reported that the OS will have 3.5 gigs dedicated to its functions with the possibility of games getting a total of 5.5 gigs if needed. (4.5 native + 1 GB floating from OS)
Physical Media Blu-ray Disk - 6x CAV Blu-ray BD-ROM + 8x CAV DVD
Storage - Hard Drive 500 GB Hard Drive - The PlayStation 4's hard drive will be upgradeable similar to how the PS3 is currently set up.
Game DVR Yes - The PlayStation 4 will natively support the option to record and upload gameplay to friends or online streaming services using the built-in "Share" button. The PS4 will automatically record the last few minutes of gameplay for you so that you can easily pick what you want to upload.

It has its own compression system and will upload the content in the background while you continue playing. On August 20, 2013, Sony confirmed that Twitch will be available for all users for free whether they want to watch or broadcast gameplay from the PS4. There will also be 20 other video services on the console in addition to improvements for existing ones.

Cloud Storage Yes - The PlayStation 4 will use a cloud-based storage system to collect all your account data and make it available anywhere you're signed in. Developers will also be able to change content using the cloud like the requirements for trophies or the environment in MMO-sized worlds.
USB Ports Three - The PlayStation 4 uses three USB 3.0 ports for different companion devices in addition to a dedicated jack for the PS Eye.
Mandatory Game Installs Yes - Game installations are mandatory on the PlayStation 4 with install times ranging from seconds to minutes. Gamers do not need to wait for the install to finish before being able to play the game. This was an optional feature on some PS3 games.
"Always Online" No - The PlayStation 4 does not require an internet connection for playing games. However, syncing to PlayStation Now and accessing the PSN will obviously require internet access.
Console Home Yes - Users can nominate one PS4 console to be their "home" device, which means all content will be available for anyone to use including PlayStation Plus access. Signing into a PSN account will not be necessary on a "home" console.
Used Game Fee No - Sony currently has no plans to charge gamers additional fees for buying games used.
Backwards Capability No - The PlayStation 4 uses an entirely new architecture for processing game data, which makes it completely incompatible with past PlayStation games. However, with PlayStation Now's cloud-based streaming service, gamers will have access to PS1, PS2, and PS3 games.
Second Screen PlayStation Vita, Smartphones, Tablets - Sony plans on releasing a PlayStation app shortly after the release of the PS4 that will allow games to be streamed onto any companion device capable of installing the app.

Users can make purchases in the PSN store, wake up their console, and install games with a secondary device. It can also be used to stream game content from friends as well as direct chat options.

Motion Control PS Eye 2.0 + PS Move - The PlayStation 4 uses the newly redesigned PS Eye for motion tracking and information processing. The device can track players and deliver game information like low health to their controllers. The PS3's Move devices will be supported by the PS4.

All PS4s will also come pre-installed with Playroom, a virtual space that utilizes the PS Eye to interact with the environment.

Subscription Service Yes - The PlayStation 4 requires a PlayStation Plus membership for access to online games. Single player games and games that can be played offline will not require a monthly subscription. PlayStation Now will also require a monthly fee (cost per month TBD).

Users can also sign into their account on any PS4 and access their library of games provided they download a portion of it first.

PSN Account Transferable - Sony has confirmed existing PlayStation Plus accounts will carry over to the PS4.
Operating System New - The PlayStation 4 will have a new OS and user interface at launch called the PlayStation Dynamic Menu. Users can instantly switch from playing a game to other social media options and even suspend gameplay to continue right away at a later time. It will no longer rely on the XrossMediaBar for navigation.
Internet Connection Gigabit Ethernet + WiFi
BlueTooth Bluetooth 2.1 (EDR)
Audio/Video Connections HDMI input and output (up to 4K resolution support) + Optical output - The PlayStation 4 will come packaged with a HDMI cable.
Region Locked No
Price $399 USD
€399 EUR
£349 GBP
$549 AUD

Welcome to the PlayStation 4


Playstation 4 Specs Guide

Moving away from custom Cell architecture that cost Sony millions of dollars in research and development during the PS3 years, the new console will instead use a custom AMD “Jaguar” x86-64 instruction set that will make it more attuned to modern PCs. This was intentionally sought out after the poor reception from developers when they tried porting games onto the PS3 from Xbox 360 architecture. It was also a pain in the ass to always have to customize game code to fit the PS3. By unifying the way developers make games (the Xbox One will use the same CPU architecture), it will be cheaper overall to design and code the next generation.

The PlayStation 4 will use a custom APU set from AMD. The CPU will consist of eight x86-64 cores and run concurrently with its GPU, which consists of 18 compute units and a theoretical peak performance of 1.84 teraflops. However, this performance will technically never be fully realized in games or the various utilities running on the PS4 and should be considered the maximum of what the console can handle. This is in line with midrange gaming PCs and the Xbox One hardware specs.

Both the CPU and GPU will share the same memory processing pool when it comes to dedicated RAM so that graphics processing and utility OS functions will take what they need when they need it. Instead of the CPU holding onto a chunk of the memory pool even when not in use, the shared design ensures the console is getting the most performance when processing graphics data. The PS4 will also have a secondary custom chip for handling background OS functions like downloads, uploads, and user interface options. Although Sony has stated this chip will be used to process “social gameplay,” we’re assuming this does not include streaming or remote play.

The PlayStation 4 will use 8 GB of GDDR5 dedicated RAM, which puts it ahead of the Xbox One in terms of raw bandwidth (176 GB/s) that can be processed at any one instance. While both consoles have 8 gigabytes of total RAM, the PS4 can process more information at once than the Xbox One. While technically meaningless considering the midrange PC specs on both consoles not really requiring more beyond 8 gigabytes, the PS4 could process more information and produce less slowdown if the user is streaming games or doing something else actually requiring the full RAM pool.

For gamers wealthy enough to afford the nice television sets, the PS4 will be able to support gaming running at 1080p with future expansion going into 4K resolution support. However, considering how limited the market for 4K resolution is at this time, you can expect more options down the line when it actually becomes economically feasible to own something capable of producing that sweet, sweet resolution. Don’t expect the PS4 to render games at 4K because the technology to consistently do so without frying the APU inside your console does not exist cheaply yet. Of course, we could all petition Sony to get on that right after they show us what the darn console looks like beyond a few teaser shots.

The PS4 is expected to have at least three USB 3.0 ports in addition to a special auxiliary port for the PlayStation Eye. Sony has smartly designed their companion motion control device to have its own dedicated port so that gamers don’t have to sacrifice one for a device that’s almost necessary for future gaming. The PS4 controller will also be able to charge using the ports even if the system is in standby mode, which is a major step-up from the previous console. Honestly, who made the conscious decision not to include this feature in the PS3? I hope they got kicked in the stones when they were in “standby” mode.

New Toys and Tech
PS4 4 Specs New Toys and TechAmong the new and improved applications and tech features like a faster Blu-ray disc drive, the PlayStation 4 also comes with second screen capabilities through your PS Vita, smartphone, or tablet. Secondary screens can also wake up and log into your PS4 to initiate downloads or stream games onto another device. Sony plans on releasing a new PlayStation app specifically for this feature when the PS4 launches so that users can stream content from their console to their friends not matter what device they’re using. This is of course a major step forward in social gameplay that allows PS4 owners to make game time anytime. Yes, I realize that sentence sounded dangerously cheesy. Cheetos. I should get some cheetos.

The current user interface for the PS4 has not been finalized yet, but during Sony’s press conference on February 20, 2013, it was clear the XrossMediaBar from the PS3 was removed in favor of the simpler PSN interface. While the user interface is expected to change by the time the PS4 ships this holiday season, Sony plans on constantly improving and evolving the feature as the console ages. At launch, this means the PSN will allows users to access to the PlayStation Now cloud-based gaming platform and browse through their library of titles with the option to try out games instantly. If the user chooses, a title can then be purchased and downloaded in the background without interrupting the other features on the PSN. For users looking for an expanded entertainment experience, the new PSN will still allow subscription services through the PlayStation store like the Sony’s Music Unlimited and Video Unlimited series.

The new home screen will feature a combination of the latest offers from third-party vendors you’re subscribed to (e.g. your Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu... porn) and the latest content from your friends. This includes new streamed content, their newly acquired trophies, and sure why not, their latest porn searches (probably). From the PS4’s home screen, you can also multitask by browsing the PlayStation Store for the latest titles or DLC while browsing the worldwide web looking at pictures of grumpy cats and chatting to friends online and in-game. Game invitations, shared in-game gifts from friends, and newly acquired items for participating in different events will also show up on the PS4 home screen when you select specific games in your library to view.

Games will also have their own dedicated tab that you can view for further information similar to how Steam currently has their games sorted based on different hubs. Within these game tabs, you can view what your friends have been doing in that game, their achievements, your own achievements, a newsfeed for updates and bug fixes from developers, newly gifted items received from friends or promotions, and more. If we’re assuming the new games tab will be like the PC equivalent of Steam, expect to see user-created game guides and video tutorials too with the possibility of seeing awards and achievements for submitting content.

Privacy now works on a two tier system where your close friends can view your real name, location, and other detailed information while online friends can only view your online identity. This can be changed within the PSN options for presumably everyone you add to your friends list. As previously reported by other news sources, the PS4 has expanded its friends list from 100 to an unknown increased number. Assuming you have this many friends (c’mon, let’s be honest here), you won’t have to pick and choose who stays on your list.

Arguably one of the best new features about the PS4 is known as PlayGo, where all titles on the console can be downloaded while you play the game. While the initial setup and install may take a while, the PS4 does not require you to install the full game in order to play. For example, if you’re playing the next Uncharted game on the PS4, you only need to download the first level of the game to start playing while the rest downloads in the background. Since the PlayStation Store will have digital downloads of new titles the day physical copies are released, you could immediately start playing the next hot release right away. All titles available on the network can also be sampled for free.

The PlayStation 4 will not require a transfer fee for buying used games and while the console is not backwards capable with the PS2 or PS3, you can stream any game in the PlayStation library with the PlayStation Now cloud service. It is currently unknown whether these titles will have to be purchased again from the PlayStation store or if Sony plans on digitizing your own library somehow.

Sony PS4 Conference Video - Specs Detailed:


Eye See You
The PlayStation Eye -- PS4 CameraThe PlayStation Eye has been completely redesigned for the eighth generation console to take advantage of 3D image capturing and interconnectivity with the PS4 controller. Aside from the increased number of cameras (you get two!), wider range, sleeker design, four different camera options, and recognition for up to six people, the PS Eye will have voice recognition and cost $60 when launches with the console this holiday season. Previous PlayStation Move companion devices will be supported on the PS4 although there are currently no planned new features for them. For the nitty-gritty technical specs, check out this handy table below.

PlayStation Eye Hardware Specs
Feature PS Eye
External Dimensions 186mm X 27mm X 27mm
Width X Height X Depth
Weight Approximately 183g
Video Pixels A maximum of 1280 X 800 pixels X 2 (Two built-in cameras)
Video Frame Rate 1280 X 800 pixels @ 60fps
640 X 400 pixels @ 120fps
320 X 192 pixels @ 240fps
Video Format RAW + YUV (uncompressed)
Lens Dual lenses with a F value/F2.0 fixed focus
Capture Range Approximately 30cm
Field-of-View Approximately 85 degrees
Microphone 4-channel microphone array
Connection Type PS4 dedicated AUX port
Cable Length Approximately 2m

The DualShock 4
The PS4 DualShock 4The PlayStation 4 controller maintains the same general shape (Sony has improved the design to be more comfortable) of previous DualShock controllers and improves upon existing features with new tech. Despite being similar in appearance, the PS3 controller will not be compatible with the eighth generation console due to all the improved or new tech features crammed into the DualShock 4. You still get two analog sticks, two analog triggers (L2 and R2), the iconic triangle, circle, square, and X face buttons, the L1 and R1 buttons, and four individual directional buttons. You also get the neat-o L3 and R3 on the analog sticks. The DualShock 4 will retail for $59.99 US.

Improvements to the controller include a brand new material over the two analog sticks that Sony has claimed to be more comfortable than previous DualShocks. They have also been redesigned to have a circular ridge along the edge of the analog sticks to increase precision when gamers play. The L3 and R3 push buttons on the analog sticks have increased responsiveness, which means something depending on how you rated the previous responsiveness on these two buttons.

The DualShock 4 will have some motion control via a three-axis gyroscope and three-axis accelerometer that the PlayStation eye will recognize. There will be an additional vibration feature using multiple motors to give players better immersion with the game they’re playing. For example, vibration will change depending on whether players are shooting a weapon in a FPS game or barreling down a track with a speed car.

Most gamers will probably notice the rather large touchpad on the center of the controller that also acts as an additional click button. Gamers can expect new ways to interact with games depending on how developers choose to use the new tech. For example, the PlayStation 4 version of Diablo III will use the touchpad for inventory management, which does not exactly mean much considering there aren’t specific details on how it works yet. However, it seems Sony is very happy with how developers are experimenting with the new tech.

For PlayStation Eye support, the DualShock 4 has a built-in light bar that will transfer information from the game to the controller via different light sequences depending on the context. For example, if a player’s health is low, the DualShock 4 will begin flashing its light bar. There are four different LED colors to help the PS Eye determine who in the game requires what information on their controller. In addition to the new light bar sensor on the DualShock 4, there will also be two ports for a headset and a mini-USB cable for charging purposes. The headset will be included with the purchase of a PS4 although there is also a mono speaker on the controller itself that will deliver in-game sounds.

There are two new buttons featured on the PS4 controller: Share and Options. The Options button located on the right side of the DualShock 4 incorporates both the Start and Select button from the previous controller into a single button. I think Options pretty much sums up what the button offers to gamers and developers. The Share button is an entirely new feature for the console that promotes Sony’s new position on social gameplay. When a player hits the Share button, the console will either start streaming the current game session or share a previously recorded video to friends online or through social media platforms like YouTube. The streaming feature can be sent to another companion device like a PS Vita or smartphone or be uploaded onto a streaming site for public viewing.

Players can also look into their friend’s games in order to see how a particularly difficult part of game is completed. Aside from those purposes, the Share button also brings up your social media hub where you can view the various ways Sony plans on making the PS4 the friendliest social media gaming machine on the planet.



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Article by - Collin Mak
Insert Date: 6/3/2013

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Comments

Sorely Dissapointed

I wont be purchasing a PS4 in the near future, the fact that there is no backwards compatibility for PS3 Games, No Media Player capability. (I currently use my PS3 more as a media player from my Home Media Server than an as a game console).
I will not be even thinking about a PS4 until these are added.
Looks like a I should purchase a couple more PS3 as back-ups for the time when they stop producing them.

Again this is just pure stupidity on Sony's part.

Very sweet PS4

It all worth it , or just wait till price drop they will 6mth - 1yr.

Profit or loss

Profit = new game consoles + new games

Loss = no consoles or games.

not getting one if I got 2

not getting one if I got 2 pay for online service.....@#%$ CRAP

filing system

IS IT FAT32 ?

pay for online come on man

We pay 500 dollars for the console 60 dollars for new controller 60 to 100 dollars for a new game. I dont like where this is going its getting more and more expensive to play a video game. It should be a courtesy to customers to not charge for basic online gaming. Sony is projected to sell 5 million ps4s by march 2014. So 2.5 billion dollars is not enough to keep up the newtork get the flip outta here. Its called greed. If i can find a some people willing to pay stupid prices that will not complain why not do it. If people complain and refuse to buy and send their stocks plummeting I bet they change their minds. Sony do not do this to your loyal customers. We already pay enough. Come on man

Online Fact

I think what nobody seems to realize is that Xbox has always had better online gaming because they have contracts with the gaming companies. Sony has always been behind because they have not been charging users to play. If Sony isn't bringing in extra money, then they can't really get the contracts to make the connectivity better. It really doesn't have a lot to do with Sony's servers. It's more in the ways the users connect to the content that is facilitated by the gaming companies. If they are going to start charging for online content, we should for sure expect a premium connection to the gaming content the same way Xbox has come to expect. If you think about it, Sony charging can only be good for the user in the long run.

ya BUT there going to get

ya BUT there going to get over 2 billion for the ps4 they have more then they need to have better online play but game desiners need to rethank there games online featers to make it baeter exsample ps3s masseffect the frist one u have to loud a copy of your game data online to be abile to loud it to masseffect 2 there is no resone for that at all.

Paying for Online Access

I am upset that playstation is trying to charge for access to online play. For me that has been a huge selling point for me compared to the X Box. I am not poor nor am I rich I dont think it right for them to offer free this long and now all of the sudden start charging access for it seems to me they are trying to make additional money that they really do not need. PS is a multi billion dollar company and I believe they would be fine still offering online access for free. I also feel this will cause more people to stick with there PS3 and not upgrade for this reason, unless they come back and begin charging everyone access even those who stick with the PS3.

Concerned Gamer

Better Security

One of the main concerns from the free online access was security concerns. If you have remembered a few times back PS4 has been hacked and on some occasions would not be able to access online play. For better security especially if money is going to be involved with credit cards ( for online downloads, apps, arcade game downloads, etc onto HDD), one year membership for $50 isn't that bad. If they do do a 3 or 6 month playstation plus that would be great so that you can efficiently manage your play time more wisely, if you are not an active gamer.

Really?

Sony is losing money on there console because the PS4 is a powerful machine. They gotta get there money through accessories and services, and to be honest, PS Plus is an awesome service and a hell of a deal for just $50 a year. Free games, exclusives, and seriously so much more. Seriously, get over it and spend the $50

$50.00

As a current user of plus the $50 bucks gets you more than just access to on-line you do get free games, wall papers, themes etc. Yes it is $50 but break it down by month and it is less than one grande latte from Starbucks a month.

I don't care whose it better.....

I dislike consoles, period. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but love games....on the PC! I've been around for a long time. Bought my first computer and still have it, Atari 800!! Give me a mouse and a keyboard any day over console controller. The only thing I can agree with is the removal or mod of DRM. I've noticed when playing online, peeps tend to be 'clickish'. And if you're not part of the 'click' then they don't want to help ya or be friendly to ya.
Enjoy your new console, whatever they may be. Is good, no...si'
Jose

WHY?

why post here, mate?

I'm done with Sony since it's

I'm done with Sony since it's not backwards compatible, and charge for online now. I'll go XBox, because most of friends have Xbox anyway.Don't want to be the lone ranger, and taking it up the butt too.

ummmm!

if you buy the xb1, you will be the new lone ranger coz ur buddies will have ps4s now. up to you!

um xbone isn't either....

um xbone isn't either.... pffft..... Xbone charges also....

ps4 cooler

I think ps4 temperature will be cooler cuzz the ps4 is called to be better than the ps4 so the ps4 must have a lower opertating temp

favorite games , backwards compatibility

it would be nice if ps4 did come with backwards compatibility.

Will PS3 games still be released after the PS4 hits the market?

Will new PS3 games still be released after the PS4 hits the shelves, or will we be forced to buy a PS4 just to get new games?

I'll put it simply...

Now obviously, I can't say this with 100% certainty, but considering they still released PS2 games for years (one of the newest Madden 12, I believe) I am positive that they will be releasing PS3 games for years to come.

yes

yes all the games for up to 3 years i believe they said will still release for ps3 also

It looks like they will keep

It looks like they will keep bringing out ps3 games for a few years. BF4, cod ghost also beyond two souls and the next GTA seem to be for ps3 only.

Charge for Online Gameplay

To the earlier comment about playstation previously focusing on single player games, Xbox on multiplayer, and that playstation was/is losing money allowing games played free online. I can understand your argument that if they had money coming in for the network gaming they could have better servers etc. I have 2 points to this: 1 as a earlier comment stated Sony is a multi-billion dollar company they could afford to build their servers out of gold if they wanted. 2 Sony should be obligated to provide the service for free. Why because I just dropped a chunk of cash on their console and not their competitor, I just bought the game they are probably getting piece of the profits on, and lastly I'm already paying $50 for high speed internet, why would I want to spend more to play a game with some punk a$$ little kids that want to act stupid, and cuss and threaten people that are twice their size instead of playing the game.
On a personal note I tend to play single player games, and game like Battlefield Bad Company 1 and 2 and Black Ops 1 and 2, I don't even play offline, I only play those online. So for me to buy those games I would have to buy the member ship also, which probably means I wont at all.
I will still buy a PS4, F the Xbox, I would still be a little happier with the free online gaming.

psn accounts

If I buy madden25 on my psn account for ps3. Will it play on my ps4 or will I have to buy it again. And if it does play will it play the same as ps4 version.

Backwards compatibility

Backwards compatibility should really be on ps4.i have a lot of my favorite games on ps3

this time next year, you will

this time next year, you will be able to play almost your entire library of PS3 games on the PS4 via cloud service..so, in a way, it is backwards compatible

I completely agree! i have so

I completely agree! i have so many games that would be great to play on the new system, only to find out that they would be incompatable? FRACK!

PS4 can't play PS3 games??

I got a lots of my favourites game.....all need to sell off....any possible to play PS3 games?

Don't Sell your old games!!!

Just because the PS4 is coming out, it doesn't mean you have to sell your old PS3 and games. Keep the system and games for when you are wanting to play them. One thing I would wish for, is that Sony & Gaikai would allow users to who have older gen games to scan or input their UPC codes that way they are able to stream their older games without having to purchase them all over again. Seeing as how the only measure of BC we are going to have is through the use of the Gaikai Streaming network.

Get Real

On planet Earth some people must budget their money. We're not all wealthy. I'm glad Sony gets that. I see that you don't.

Go Hard

Set up a gaming pc for $3000 and be done with it.

Go Easy

Build a gaming PC for about $350. Im not a PC fanboy, you just made a comment that are not a person favor.

Please see this video to get yo fact straight:
http://youtu.be/pP88nWrHAkE

Get Real

On planet Earth some people must budget their money. We're not all wealthy. I'm glad Sony gets that. I see that you don't.

Does PS4 support PS3 games?

Is the new PS supporting PS3 games? If no then i have to sell all my games :(

nope only support ps4 games

nope only support ps4 games srry

That's not true.

The PS4 has been confirmed to support all downloaded games from the PS3. Whether it is a PSN game or a full title like Assassins Creed 3 or Madden 13.

WFT SONY!!

pay to play online big messtake in my book

Cooling System

I wonder what cooling system they start out with this time cause they always seem to start out with a fan and then make a slimmer one with a liquid cooling system and beef up the memory.

I ALREADY GOT THE PS4!!!!

my uncle works for sony and so far it is pretty sweet. cant play online yet but the demos are pretty sweet.

I have 5 of them and play

I have 5 of them and play them all at the same time. So there...............hahahahaha

No Way

You are full of it! Nobody will have access to it yet. Not even you.

Just another squeaker....

Faux-Swagger? Check. Lies about getting NG Console before anyone else? Check.
All of this points to a little 8-year old, pre-pubescent squeaker boy bragging to try and garner even moderate "rights" to fame for having hardware before anyone else.
So, if you have the console, what are the demos? How large is the HDD? How did you access these said demos?

Agree that it's a kid

...But the harddrive actually is confirmed to be 500gb (that's too little for my opinion, I'd like 1 or 2TB)

Pay for online MP games????

So am I reading this correctly? Thats one of the reasons I was loyal to PS bc they didnt charge like Xbox...I mean freaking come on...we already pay for the internet in our house! Then to charge to access the network???? Sick of these corporations nickel and diming the consumer to boost profit when they already make tons of money.

Check the math on this one....

How is it that a company that has been giving you something for free is boosting their profit? PSN has been a financial drain on Sony since day one! Ever wonder why it takes 30 minutes to get into an MP game in so many of those PlayStation3 titles? Because the network is crap! Sony has needed to do a PSN overhaul for years, about 6 of them. Overhauls cost a lot of money. I applaud that Sony is taking action in the best interest of REAL gamers and is not content just sticking with people who pick it "because it's the free one". The 360 has been the better gaming machine for the last 7 1/2 years for one reason, in my opinion - their awesomely-supported-fast-running-PREMIUM network. Gaming is a luxury not a right, so dust off your wallet and shell out $50 a year and support the company you have been content to mooch off of for the better part of a decade. Bottom line, it is their job to make great games and a network to play them on. I wouldn't ask anyone to do their job for free. Besides, even at $50 a year, it is still $10 less than XBOX.

You have a point....

Agreed. If I must pay to play online then there is only one question left... Will I buy it, or will I not. Some may not be able to afford. If you don't like it then don't buy it. Or only invest into offline games. I would expect great service if we must pay. Reliable &secure. This is America.. Nothing good comes for free. Grow up & realize that if you havn't already. <3 Sony. Tbh.. I won't be buying it for it's online purposes if it's not free... You don't see me beaching. If you want free, go to Starbucks. Go to the beach. Otherwise, get with the program.

pay for online mp games

Agree why should we have to pay if we ourselfs pay for our internet and we provide it

hey

I refuse to pay for online gaming on a continual basis. If sony stays that route they have lost my business. They are not going broke, by not charging for online gaming that is a nice courtesy to customers. Please do not charge for basic online gaming. I refuse to buy any more games or consoles if thats what you choose to do sony.

If everyone complains and refuses to buy im sure they will change their minds they are just getting greedy. The games are 60 to hundred dollars the console is 500 dollars the controllers are 60 dollars come on man.

agreed

It is mostly what separated the PlayStation from XBOX - the free online.
If they do charge for online - they are pushing people to XBOX since they've always charged anyway.
I don't play online much but when I do it drives me crazy with the kids and the mouths going. Paying for that would be even more annoying!

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