The PS3 – Will it Stay or Will it Go?

The console wars are here to stay it seems. And with the introduction of motion controllers over the past year or so, it has only intensified. As such, many are looking months down the road to see what’s coming around the bend next. For Playstation fans, that means the Playstation 4.

As much as we don’t like it, every 5 or 6 years our favorite console becomes virtually obsolete. Bigger and better things are always being created in the world of video game development and new hardware has to be made available to the masses in order to simply keep up. The PS3 debuted in 2006, and now the PlayStation 4 is set to hit in 2013, ushering in a new age of PlayStation hardware.

Untapped Potential
But should it? There are many, both developers and users alike, that say the PS3 still has yet to realize its potential. Without going into all the gory details, many laud the PS3’s graphics over the competition and say that it has the ability to do much, much more. Do we really need a new Playstation?

The PS3, despite its many accolades, remains in third place behind the Xbox 360 and the Nintendo Wii. Therefore, many will say that the representation of the PS3’s abilities by its fans is merely sour grapes from a fan base smaller than the competition’s. While the “us vs. them” exclusivity may be a factor, there is something to what these people are saying. The PS3 is a truly great machine. It hasn’t suffered because of its abilities, but because of other factors.

First, there’s the price tag. Sure, it’s come down over the past few years, but Sony is holding onto that $300 price tag – which is $100 more than the 360 or Wii. So during the Christmas shopping season, many will take one look at the price difference and opt for the cheaper console. Second, there are still millions of PS2s used every day. While this is a testament to another great console built by Sony, it does hurt PS3 sales. I alone know that many of my friends still cling to their PS2s and proudly play them often. They should upgrade with the rest of us, but they are still clinging to those old machines. Unfortunately, the PS3 only has limited backwards compatibility and that’s just another reason why these holdouts persist for now.

From Sony’s perspective, you know it’s all about the bottom line. While it’s great that critics may say you have the best console, it does you no good unless you have the sales to back that up. It’s kind of like those art house movies that win at the Oscars every year. Yeah, it’s great that everyone loves you, but no one saw your movie. Yippee. So therefore, you know that Sony has had a plan for years regarding the PS4, the PS5, and even the PS6. No matter how well the PS3 did there would be a PS4 coming down the pike 5 or 6 years later – that’s how game development works and that’s how business works. In order to stay alive, your business has to always be moving forward with new and exciting products.

The PS3 – Will it Stay or Will it Go?It's Coming...But When?
But will there be a demand for the PS4 in 2013? I think the success or failure of the PS4 depends mostly upon timing and impact. Sony’s prior successes largely had to do with how its consoles matched up with the competition. The PS2 debuted before the Xbox and Gamecube, allowing Sony to establish a solid base of customers playing the newest, coolest machine with the best games – and the PS2 could keep up with both the Xbox and Gamecube when they came out. So if past success is any indication of future success, look for the PS4 to hit the market before the Xbox One. Sony missed the mark with the release date of the PS3 (it came out after the 360 and the Move came out after the Wii), so I wouldn’t look for them to make that mistake again.

All in all, I expect Sony to capitalize on the success they had with the PS2 and use that model for the debut of the PS4. If they can get it developed and ready before their competitors know what hit them, they can once again make themselves the hot new thing thanks to features like the Share button, online streaming and the focus on social activity. While it’s easy to be cynical and say Sony can't regain the top spot, I’m excited to see what Sony can do with the new technology that I’m sure is coming across their desks.

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Same features

Well, as we can see, first of all the max resolution of both PS3 and PS4 will be over 1080p, but there is a difference that is the details and...If we are talking about graphics and processors, so why whould we buy a new PS4 if the PS3 offers appromatively the same features(3D gaming).Even the PS3 has got better media than PS4, soo...

Im rikc james biotch

Why so many cry babys????.. EASY.. Buy it Or dont buy it. SIMPPPLEEE.. Cant wait <333

Black ops 2

Why did so many PS3's break Because of blackops2 , Maybe it just pushed it to far with its graphics or maybe they deliberately coded it to break them to sell more PS3's.

I never had a problem with Blackops 2

My PS3 never had a problem with black ops 2, and by the way BO2 was nowhere near over the top graphics. You clearly have not seen good graphics before, COD is the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER again with no real progression. Hell a Wii game called Final Fantasy The Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers had far better graphics than any COD game.

Same thing happened to me

The day black ops 2 came out, my ps3 stopped working, and i bought a new one at Fry's Electronics, i had a warrenty and to get a replacment it only cost me 80 bucks and i got assassins creed 3 for free

Vicseas

What for? I mean come on man. If they are still making games for PS3, and those games are also available for PS4, then why bother? If it is about graphic and gpu wise, PS3 again still has absolete potential. I don't see PS4 as the elder brother to PS3, but more like it's twin brother, but on Nike Air shoes, while PS3 is on Nike shoes.

I dont want PS4

I just buy brand new ps3.And now ps4 gonna come.No, just NO.
NO 4 PS4 !

ps4 just needs to come quick

I bought my ps3 in 2006 and really after 7 years I'm acualy starting to wonder when the ps4 is coming... I believe ps1-3 games will work on the ps4 where as my ps3 didn't want to play crash so all I can do is hope... Really want to be able to play it again... Ps4 hurry up

WTF PS4 come out -__-???

If they still making PS3 games, there are no reasons to make a new PS4

PS4 come out -__-???

If they still making PS3 games, there are no reasons to make a new PS4

For those that don't switch to PS4 immediately.

Not everyone will switch so fast, and they'll still want some support on their current console. Many games will be on both platforms for that reason.

PS4 december 2013

people will buy it, thats a reason.

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I was just about to buy the PS3 until I heard on FB that the PS4 was going to come out soon, so now I don't know whether or not to go ahead and buy the PS3 or wait fro the PS4.... I guess I'll just have to hear how much the PS4 is going to cost me.... If I could play PS3 games on the PS4 then I will probably go with the PS4 but we will see.....

Sony Playstation 4

Hi there I have had ps3 for a very long time 80gb did have the first 60gb but it went yellowed on me then after that about 2 months no network so went with Xbox 360 I really don't like Xbox its stile everything after back online with network access ps3 was back like a bullet so to here ps4 and watched the event on website I was pleased with joy on how the console will work but like everyone knows there can only be 1 console you enjoy the most of and mine is ps3 and ps4
I have infinity so my broadband is super fast download it took to download battlefield 3 + premium content about 15gb 1 min I have 160mb sec u can chose once u are with bt they will offer 38mb or 76mb on website once u have 1 of them u can go for any mb sec download I love them he he my email ad is stephenterrencebaker@gmail.com ps3 id stephen1baker love the love

ps network price

I love the fact ps network is still going to be free, I wont even buy xbox because you have to pay for xbox live. I think thats stupid we already pay for internet and they make money off of the games and downloads accessories and a lot more there is no need to charge for online play

Umm what!

PS4 Announced during E3 that they are requiring you to have PS+ Subscription to play online gaming and get most recent updates.

is the future!

This is the future ladies and gentlemen, many of you are concerned about the price of the new console $ 500 or $ 429 is a great price for all the new features q Sony unveiled the latest console costs A $ 200 to $ 350 for $ 100 or $ 200 more ofcourse it would pay for new and more powerful hardware speed new hd resolution i guess i dont no about you guys but i will take the advantage of this and make a jump to the future, high hardware cost ends so dont cry for Apple and other companies it do the when They came out same with new equipment especially if you have more advanced hardware

PS3 + PS4

Alright, I'll be honest here. While the PS4 may be the most 'amazing console Sony has ever created', many PS3 players will still stick to their console. Judging by the amount of new game exclusives coming to the PS4, will the PS3 still stand a chance? Perhaps. Knowing many gamers though, either the price of the PS4 will be out the roof (perhaps around $200-$400), or maybe cheaper, although probably not.

Game-wise, if the many of the gaming content created for the PS4 cannot be playable to the PS3, that will be posing problems for PS3 lovers. Hopefully Sony is nice enough to have games for the PS4 made for the PS3 to. It'll be a pretty good idea too, considereing that if many old PS3 lovers still stick to their console, Sony will still be able to profit off the PS3 with new content being released for the PS4.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure that Sony will still market off content for the PS3 for a number of years. After all, the console has been out for several years and has been popular with millons of gamers worldwide.

Don't worry u can buy ps4 made in china :P

Tha good and bad news in the same time uz that mean if ps3 game stop from releasing we will force to buy ps4 and that bad people are worry about the price
of the ps4 and it games $_$

I'm sure Microsoft manager got heart attack when he hear the NEWs x_x

I just brought the ps3 now ps4 is coming out?crap !

LET PS3 and ps4 play with each other with the same games NOT EVERYONE CAN BUY A GOD DAMN EXPENSIVE 8k 2k TV AND A PS4 JUST FOR THAT AND I JUST BROUGHT THE PS3 3MONTHS AGO

I KNOW RIGHT

I KNOW RIGHT

yea true

bought a xbox360 few months and now xbox one comes at +500$! damnit ps4 and xbox one!
they are not that cool i see that its the same graphic but ps4 abit better only!

I have a ?

Will ps3 and ps4 be able to play online with each other

Re: ps3 and ps4

According to the PSN (play station networking) all Sony Devices should be able to contact with each other via the PSN. Just like all IOS devices can connect on itunes or something like that. THerefore, I am pretty convinced that PS3 and PS4 will be able to connect and play with each other. There is one issue though. The Games. If you were playing Battle Field 3 or Black Ops 2, you're not so sure that the game will come out when the ps4 is released. Appareantly, I am using an Xbox 360 slim, Ive researched alot about getting a Sony Playstation because the PSN is free. However I am still concerned how long will I have to wait for new games such as BattleField or Black Ops 2 to be available on ps4, or will they just promote random sh*t like Kinect or Eden? The answer to be confirmed in the future...

contact me a xuantran4@yahoo.com if you have any concerns.

Price

On my opinion ps4 wil b $100-$200 most people in the world r poor and homeless and lost of job(s) this is y it's the great depression 2

im keeping my ps3

wait till '14 or 15. '13 is waaaaaaaay to soon sony.

Really?

PS3 was released in 2006!!! '13 too early???? For real?? Not soon enough to me......

NO PS 4 FOR ATLEAST 4 YEARS

SONY IS MAKING PS 4 DAMN IT

PS4 SHOULD NEVER COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I CANT BELIVE A PS4 IS COMING OUT SON CAN BE SUCH A TROLL SOMETIMES!

Sony will not allow ps3 bc and ps3 is not a failure !

Even if Ps4 or Ps Orbis is released it will be the last generation console and then consoles will die because we cant afford new consoles every time,what do you want a Ps 1000 you will not live to see one,so my point is that the Ps3 can give you everything,realistic graphics,3d and even 3d gameplay just like Ps4 will,but they don't want to use 3d in gaming on the Ps3 because they are saving this idea for the Ps4 because Sony is out of ideas for their next and final console so Ps3 can give you everything
you will need in gaming,i don't know about cloud gaming but Ps3 can also do this,so for me Ps3 is not a failure.

What's all this nonsense.

Consoles aren't going anywhere, same as PCs aren't, newer technology comes out all of the time bettering the last generation, we're by no means at a level of internet infrastructure to replace a home based console with a set of servers processing far away from your TV.

PS3's been a success, absolutely, I mean almost 70 millions units sold, very close to the Xbox 360 even though the 360 was released roughly one year prior to PS3's release.

Current gen games consoles are tapped out, they barely do 720p & image quality can be drastically improved.
I don't think I'd call what we have in PS3 (& I've been gaming on mine from the day after it was released, so I'm fully aware of what the system's been capable of) realistic, not compared to what current hardware is capable of (watch tech demos like Star Wars 1313 from this year's E3 or the latest unreal demos, PS3 can in no way produce those level of images).

Nobody knows what things Sony could have developed behind closed doors, so to say Sony's out of ideas, new concepts for newer technologies that improve the gaming experience are being invented all of the time.

We've not have the full HD experience on consoles yet.
Games made with up to date game engines that can't be streamed or run on anything lower than a high end, single GPU gaming PC, with 2012 tech are planned to work with PS4 & Xbox 720.

PS3 has been out for 6 years this month, it's power's been tapped, all developers can do is release the same levels of image quality, stressing the hardware with low 720p (in many cases sub 720p), with little or no antialising & nothing in the way of modern effects.
Things like AI can be much improved, the overall experience can too, with faster frame rates (we're lucky to get 20-30FPS in games that are programmed to the best of a developer like ND's experience).

Putting the best PS3 & Xbox 360 games side by side with full image quality, full 1920x1080 60FPS Crysis 3 on a mid level PC shows how a game that's not even optimized to run on the hardware can far exceed anything on the current HD consoles can do even when those systems are progammed the best way they possibly can be.

Come next E3 the leap the next gen consoles (720/Durango & PS4/Orbis) this will be obvious.

360 & PS3 have run their course, whilst they've been good games machines, they have been exceeded, as will always happen.

Precisely because consoles off a different kind of experience (with 1st party titles), because even if the broadband infrastructure was in place it can always be disrupted with line failures, servers can go down, which would annoy the hell out of gamers dependant on a constant, decent grade connection, physical media still holds it's appeal.
Without powerful enough hardware in the home the latest level games simply work work if the remote servers fail or other unforseen things affect the experience.

While cloud gaming may provide an alternative, we're no where near the point where consoles or PCs will be replaced.
All that will provide is more choice, with people continuing to fall back to their next console, because it will still provide the desired experience.

AGREED, WE NEED PS4 NOW!

I agree, 150% with everything you said. We need new consoles as soon as possible, FryCry 3 looks like garbage on the current-gen consoles. I'm starting to want to stay away from games that go for a realistic look on consoles, do to the fact that they look disgusting, with (sub 720p) (no AA) (15-20-30FPS at the most) and ( almost nonstop screen tearing), the list goes on and on.

should be backward compatibility....

Ps4 will be more appealing in the market if it will be backward compatible with ps3 and or much better ps2 games as well.. Sony should consider that with years in gaming industry, millions have already developed library of games, ps1 to ps3..and consoles have been piling up already on media room, need to do something about this... PS4, if backward compatible, will be for sure a great beast that will alarm the competitors.

PS3 to PS4 transiton is fine

i do have to admit right now is ps3s moment to get bigger on the market so it is at its prime i think that the ps4 should come out at 2014 or 15 giving them time to make it as good as they can at a decent price and in all else i am looking forward to the ps4 and i don't mind paying for it if it is just under 500 dollars

ps3 or ps4

sticking with the ps3 it works quite fine and not looking forward to the insane price of the ps4!

What's the price of the ps4

What's the price of the ps4

price

knowing from past references. it'll be like the ps3 about 400$

even if ps4 comes

even if ps4 comes there won't be a huge difference because ps3 is a very good console and the games won't change the resolution but the difference will be in the shape, size, GBs, controller, and other things.

Re: even if PS4 comes

PS3 uses 6-7 year old technology, many PS3 games are in 720p, they have little in the way of effects & frame rates are barely targetted at 30 FPS.

The level of detail in console games for this generation can be drastically improved, PS3 & Xbox 360 don't have any games that look remotely close to even the original Crysis running with the highest PC level textures let alone graphics on the level of maxed out Crysis 3 or other developers most recent game engine demos.

Worst case scenario PS4 has hardware capable of running Samaritan level Unreal Engine 3 graphics at 720p 30FPS with full effects on.

There's no way PS3 or Xbox 360 could handle even the lowest settings of UE4's Elemental demo at 720p, frame rates would slow to a crawl and likely be totally unplayable on those consoles.

Next gen playstation will most definitely, massively improve the image quality of games over current graphics, the same goes for the next Xbox.

Even in a game like Battlefield 3 we have to put up with sub HD native resolutions, very low levels of AA and pretty much no other modern effects, frame rates regularly drop below 30FPS in that game on PS3 & Xbox 360 and it's not even in 720p.
Even a PC with an A10-5800k AMD APU can handle BF3 at 1080p with low settings with around 30FPS, that's a game that's not optimized for that specific hardware (it can't be optimized for specific hardware because of the inherent differences in the components each PC has), PS4 will have something more powerful than that & games will be optimized to run on it, but even a PS4 with the A10-5800k could probably run BF3 on medium to ultra settings at 30FPS, which looks much better than the sub hd, low levels of effects we're currently seeing on our current gen consoles.

1st party games on PS4 will make the likes of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls look like PS2 games compared to PS3 games.

Anyone that believes PS4 games won't look a lot better than PS3 ones is clearly ignorant of just what is possible even with cheap PC style parts.

This is bad...

-You know Gaming society is bad if people are just gonna focus on the graphic parts of a machine
-So you´re saying that graphics and Frames Per Second is all that matters to say that a game is good, to my opinion only First-Person games should surpass 30 FPS, there´s no NEED for more with other type of games
(believe me, I have an Intel HD card in my PC and I play games fine at 20-25 FPS)

Ps3 will not go away it will be even more then 10 years cycle !

I love PS3 end of story!

Understanding what a console's lifecycle means.

When a games console maker releases their machine they state how long they think the console will be sold, have games released for & how long they will produce peripherals for the system, essentially that 10 years figure is for how long a company will support their product.

It seems likely PS3 will exceed this timeline, because it's been such a success.

Now the amount of time a console will have before the next generation comes in is an entirely different thing, usually it's based off of the length of the previous console's time being the most powerful machine that company has out, which is 6 years per each new Playstation, which PS3 will have exceeded by next November, by then PS3 will have been out for 7 years, that's about as long as any games console has been on the market before a newer, more advanced machine has come alongside it.

Best thing for people is to understand the new machine isn't replacing the old one, it's just giving consumers the latest tech, software for more choice, but it's not an indicator that the current console will be will be dropped.

People need to chill about this.
If they want to wait then start saving and buy the PS4 2 years or so years after it's been released, you'll probably get it at a reduced price over the release price and likely with a few games for the cost of the machine at release.

Happy Gaming!! :D

10 years+ is realistic.

But people!!! You have to remember that Ps2 lasted a good 2-3 years after the PS3 release. PS3 would probably (assuming PS4 is released in 2013) last till about the 2016-2018 time period.

PS4 isn't going to be coming soon

How many people can actually afford a 4k x 2k resolution television. The majority don't even have 3d tv and even those that do have one don't even have enough to buy a high end version of that. When most people think of ps4's they are also thinking of buying a tv to support that kind of resolution. Plus Sony hasn't made enough money off the ps3 yet and sales aren't that great. Ps4 is probably going to be either really expensive or average in terms in cost but with crap parts. Plus the economy is really bad so to make an upscale version of the ps3 in this kind of economy is going to suck for them. Also, the ps4 is going to probably not have backwards compatibility and some sort of gamertag lock on the game so that only that console or account can play that game. This is going to upset a lot of people. Plus having backwards compatibility is going to be expensive for sony so they won't do that. Also, XBOX720 will most likely be a similar case.

Re: PS4 isn't going to be coming soon.

The resolution thing means nothing, as the user below this comment said PS4 will work on any TV, just like PS3 could work on old CRTs with no HD, Sony won't limit their sales base like that.

3D TVs are quite cheap now, but again it doesn't matter if you don't have one because you'll still be able to play the games, PS4 will just give people more options in that regard.

Sony has sold around 2 million less units of PS3s compared to Xbox 360 and the 360 came out a full year prior to PS3, Sony's done fine, PS3 has been profitable for quite a few years and TBH Sony and MS make their money on software sales, not the hardware at the start of the generation.

PS4 could be released for less than Wii U, with the same specs, even with dual GPUs, using the current AMD A10 rumour, paired with something based around a HD 7850 it would likely meet the required specs to make a decent game, with high levels of IQ at 1920x1080p @ 30FPS, which requires about 10X PS3 performance, this would be on hardware that devs would love to work with, which would be a machine that Sony could easily release for a little loss at around $400, or $50 more than the 32GB Wii U Premium.

Backwards compatibility could easily happen with a PS3 chipset being built into the hardware, just because rumours go on about x86 hardware that doesn't mean Sony can't come up with a solution to, considering that tech is cheap to make now your belief is entirely unsupported by aany shread of proof.

The gamer lock thing is also not supported by any current facts, plus it actually makes no sense, the industry doesn't support this as being factually even likely, same as the always on hardware rumour, because broadband infrastructure has faults and people get power cuts in their homes, it's an entirely unreasonable thing to demand of your customers.

Wii U is about 4 times the PS3 in power, with a funky tablet, yet sales are good, yes Nintendo are making a slight loss, but that's expected, same goes for PS4, Xbox 720 or any other company making games consoles in the forseeable future (reason I say other company is because there are rumours Samsung is interested, along with Apple in getting into the industry with a dedicated console each).

Everything you've posted is only based on a small set of rumours, not the vast majority or any level of knowledge surrounding what a company like Sony pays for their parts that go into the console, compared to how much those things retail for.

The idea that PS4 will have crap parts is also unfounded, many proven technologies from AMD (supposedly being the APU & possibly an additional GPU supplier to Sony), various other suppliers are going into PS4, Sony can make HDDs, Bluray for dirt cheap now, they can get good quality RAM from a company like Samsung or any one of a load of different suppliers, they can make cooling, PSUs & many other things themselves cheaply in-house.

If a company liek Dell can make an Alienware with an i3 & GTX 640 for sale at a mark up of like $300 I think Sony can do better in a dedicated console where they're gonna be selling far more units, make a quality product that will appeal to people.

Finally developers have already stated that they have games that will be ready in time for release before early January 2014, this means November next year is the likely release date for at least one of the next-nextgen consoles to be released, with another company following not long after.

Expect official announcements from both Sony and Microsoft next E3, we've already seen what to expect with developers like Square Enix showing off their Agnis Philosophy tech demo, Epic has UE4, they showed features in 2011 with UE3 & their Samaritan demo, Lucasarts also had Star Wars 1313, which is actually a supposed game in development.

I believe I read that Square Enix said they would have a working title at next E3, which was planned for none PC hardware, which all but states outright next gen consoles are the platform in question.
All of this info is out there on the internet, if you do some actual research.

Check your facts

-This is a good year for PS3 profits. Xbox 360 have been on the declined.
I'm not sure what you mean by 4k x 2k. But it sound like you talking about a stronger HD. Don't buy it then PS4 will work on any TV good or bad so your argument is invalid.
-A few years ago people couldn't afford to buy and HDTV now it becoming rapidity mainstream, schools are getting them, soon every house in America would have one.
3D-TVs time will come but it not gonna sell much in a downed world economy.
-Crap parts? PS3 have better components then xbox. And most of the parts being use in PS4 may be cheaper already anyway (blu-ray, hard disk drive). So far people have mainly guess a $400-$700 price range.
-PS3 slim is an cheaper upscale version of the first PS3... And ps4 is rumored to be 10x more powerful.
-It's clear you're an orginal Xbox player. :) Most of us don't use the term "gamertag", we use "PSN ID". You been caught! Go back to Xbox720 site and never come back.

PS4 will burn our eyes in 4k special tv ps3 long life pls!

i hate ps4 ps3 is so great that i love it ps4 will need special 4k tv inorder to watch ps4 no used games if you want to play a game u need to be online no more single player games no backward compatible while ps3 can be ps2bc i want ps3 to stay for long time and develops games for not 10 year cycle but for more then 10 years ps3 still have not reached his limits !

Absolutely wrong.

No people will not need a 4k TV to play PS4 games.
Basically 4K could end up being an option on the PS4 settings, just like PS3 can have it's settings changed between 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p.

This is exactly like a modern PC, modern GPUs allow for games to be rendered at level above 4k in some cases for multi monitor gaming.

Basically you've taken all the rumours, believed them and put your own beliefs in about the whole 4K thing.

No official statements have come from Sony about the capabilities of PS4.
To allow for Backwards Compatibility is not hard, all Sony has to do is include the chip sets from PS3 in the PS4's design.
Even if the core processing technology of PS4 doesn't allow for the PS3's cell based games to be processed that doesn't stop sony from including the RSX and Cell in some form (probably a System on Chip, with the ram, cpu and gpu from PS3 in that design, otherwise just those components in shrunken down form, embedded into PS4's motherboard).
Basically if that tech is included full Backwards compatibility with PS3 games should be a given.

As far as PS3 not reaching it's limit, simply put, it has.
Games like The Last of Us, God Of War 4, Beyond 2 Souls and also the Kara Demo by Quantic Dreams have pushed the limits of the consoles capabilities.
Very few games come at full native 1080p on current gen consoles, because the hardware can't handle that resolution and when that resolution is achieved frame rates suffer, we also see very little in the way AA and AF.

Even cheap hardware, like the rumoured A8-3850 paired in crossfire with the HD 6670 are more capable than PS3 is.
Many games have been released at sub 720p, because the PS3's hardware can't handle more (same goes for Xbox 360).

Wii U will have a modern IBM cell processor and a HD 7770 for it's GPU, it's modern archetecture (relative to what's in current consoles) will be far more powerful than PS3 and Xbox 360.
As a result of the U's newer tech it can handle a game like Assasin's Creed 3 at full 1080p with frames rates of 60FPS and pretty decent levels of AA and other graphical effects on a level that Xbox 360 and PS3 can't hope to achieve.

BTW anyone thinking PS4 and Xbox 720 are going to be expensive needs to think again.
MS and Sony buy parts at a fraction of what they retail for.
An AMD cpu like a 6 core FX 6200 is only £105.99 and a 2GB HD 7770 is £129.99 (capable of 4k and 2k for eyefinity or 1080p with reasonable frame rates and graphical effects).
Sony can probably buy those for half that, considering how much Amazon probably buys them for, Sony and MS will make AMD more of a profit through the bulk selling of consoles.

It's now looking like Sony could release a PS4 for £250 to £300 and release a killer machine, with anywhere from 6+ the power of PS3, now tell me that PS3's limits aren't holding back what game developers can achieve if they have the hardware to use.

As it stands games are modeled at levels that have to be downgraded so that current consoles can handle the code, the chipset from a HD 7770 is the least Sony and Microsoft should be aiming too use in their next gen machines, if they go to 7870 and above we're looking at over 12 times the power of a PS3 in the PS4.
7770 seems the likely candidate for Xbox 720, given the effort MS has gone to to tear down rumours of 6 times the power of 360 for it's next gen.
Rumours for PS4 have put it as now potentially having an APU with the chipset from the HD 7950, downgraded to 1.8 TFlops, then paired with another external chip from the 7970, if that's true then comparing PS4 to PS3 will be like comparing a PS3 to a PS2.

You and others may say "well better graphics are all well and good, but there won't be any other benefits" this line of thinking is bull, as greater power (in CPU for starters) will allow for more intelligent NPCs, faster loading times (newer ram and higher, faster levels of Cache help with that too), a better GPU will allow for bigger environments, more characters on screen, better frame rates (which will make for a more enjoyable experience), seriously anyone that tells me games freezing up on their PS3 or major slow down hasn't effected how much you've enjoyed playing a game is lying.
You may not care if slow down happens once in a while, but when PS3 is pushed to it's limits this is what you can expect and those limits have been pushed almost to breaking point.
Less or zero screen tearing and reduced or completely removed pop up (it still happens in some PS3 games).

A faster Bluray drive means faster loading, which coupled together with the obvious improvements in RAM amounts and better ram tech could actually remove loading times altogether.
A built in SSD alongside a traditional HDD could allow for faster access to the OS, storing of previous game saves, faster saving on the fly.

All of this is without knowing exactly what will be in PS4 tech wise, but baring in mind what SSDs, faster disc drives and standard hard drives, faster and more powerful CPUs, faster motherboards, faster ram all does for a new PC we can get an idea of what benefits PS4 will have over PS3 and judging by how much entry level PC tech costs it seems likely that PS4 could be relatively cheap and not much of a higher cost compaired to PS3's price now, far cheaper than PS3's release price, even with a modern Bluray drive, SSD and everything else.

Might have PS4

PS3 is so much better than the Xbox 360.I had my PS3 for 4 years, I might sell my PS3 for a PS4 if anybody plays it :/

nahh

i think itd aready be on the market. so they can get people all hyped up for christmas and stuff, besides... new cod coming out.. ps3 aint dead

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