So the PS4 is...the Orbis? What Does it All Mean?

Shouldn't even be an issue. People got bills to pay, they don't wanna pay the full $60 for a game that been out all year. I may not like xbox but they're being smart either. Locking games into your account so only you can play it? Stupid.
Even if Sony wanted to make profit out of this:
Let me tell you, I wanted to find out how BF3 was really like, I played the demo and story but I couldn't access the multiplayer. That was my turn-off point. I could not dare to even buy this game or even the multiplayer code. I'm merely a teen seeking a part timer and you want your majority of audiance who is mainly entering college, in college, or recently leaving college(with an average of $25,000 in debt) to pay extra buck in a downed WORLD economy for a multi-billion dollar company????

I sure hope either of these game consoles would do this madness. I mean DLCs are already only lock into account why pay more?

Many users are very happy with AMD's cheaper multi core processors, in many cases finding them better for threaded programs when comparing them to similarly and in some cases slightly more expensive Intel chips.

The FX 6200 and 81** series are excellent for games, applications and decoding, which is all PS4 needs to deal with, it's all any games console has to do.

If Sony does as the HSA comment guy has said then a new cell, repacked/rebranded as something new would be perfect.

There are patents that already exist for a new cell, one with 4 cores and 4 SPEs per core.
Apparently this can be manufacturered at below 28nm, making it far more powerful than PS3's cell, with high levels of a more modern cache and plenty of system ram this will be easier to develop for than the existing cell and have all of the benefits of modern multicore processors.

Even if Sony were going with a quad core or similar multicore AMD processor to allow for Backwards Compatibility they'd only need to install a PS3 Cell and now tiny RSX, with the same ram onto the PS4's motherboard, shut off the new hardware whenever people want to play PS3 games on the system.

To be honest even if stuff's been leaked by game devs about PS4's hardware and they aren't making mention of PS3 hardware being in the kit, it probably wouldn't be in dev kits, because it's not tech they'll have to worry about.

I'd say wait and see before slating whatever PS4 has or doesn't have for hardware.

No real information have been released yet. But from what I heard they're kinda remodeling this AMD CPU.

What you forget is that Sony owns Cell.

If Sony wanted to, they could get IBM to work with AMD for a new type of Cell.

This new type of Cell is an AMD/IBM SoC Cell/PPU package based on HSA.

All this is this possible for a launch in 2013/14.

If AMD/IBM create a SoC/Trinity/Cell-PPU/HSA/x86-like design
everything changes.

It will be x86/64 HSA with Cell compatibility.

Something like that would be capable of 4 Teraflops, and nothing out of the ordinary to manufacturer.

AMD have the platform.
IBM have the Power.
Sony have the Playstation.

Add them all together and you have even Apple quaking in the boots trying to break open the game console market in much the same way they're hoping to do with ARM.

Tied to your account not your system this also means people without high speed internet would not be able to move forward to the next generation of systems

The money from the 'second hand market' goes to the game stores, not the developers. Developers hate used game sales. Killing the second hand market will kill the game stores, not the developers. This will force people to go to the PSN to get games, which may actually help small developers, especially if they have a 'small dev' game of the week or something.

Seriously.I mean as the operating system is sony aether?Never heard of that before.

That is just awesome but it's probably fake. If it's real i wish it was released this year!

that would be the death of quality you dear fool!!

The PS server is working well. Xbox server is working well. Make sure you check your internet connection.
Done all that?

Ok, You have to understand that none of these system is "perfect" or will ever be. PSN was hacked, Sony took full responsibly and shut the entire thing down so they can start over again. You be lucky to have Sony based on caring for costumers as they know that hackers will try to attack them. Xbox Live isn't safe, PSN isn't safe, Nowhere is safe from hackers.

And this is the first console focused on internet so it a new concept to master.

most of my games come from stores, bu i buy games off of friends tht they have used b4. there will be major backlash on this

You will buy it because u won't have a choice if this is the way the game industry is going! The reason for what transpired recently in the gaming industry with GAME and Gamestation stores is partly down to money lost by retailers on second hand games and piracy. If u havnt heard xbox are planning the same thing, a recent rumor went as far as to say xbox won't employ and optic disk drive whatsoever. I doubt that to be true, but they have also stated the xbox will require u to sign in whenever u play a game so Microsoft can keep tabs. I think people have took these rumors to literal and have perhaps misinterpreted them a little, I imagine u will merely have to pay a fee to unlock a game u have Purchased second hand. There are rumors to back this up saying that without paying this fee u will only have acess to a demo version of the game before playstation network or xbox live send u a notification requesting a fee for u to continue.

So unless u want to stay in the current generation of games 4ever get ur wallet out and stop winging mate

If you truly love the industry and want to see it grow, then buying a used game is stupid.