When Will the PlayStation 4 Grace Our Homes?
While the PlayStation 3 has only recently been released and has its best days still ahead of it, Sony is not one to rest on its laurels, and with the intense competition in the video game world, plans for the PlayStation 4's future release are already being put into motion. In fact not only is the PlayStation 4 getting this treatment, but even the PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 6 are in the early stages of planning and conceptualization at Sony's R&D labs.
Although we've yet to see what the PS3 can do when really put through its paces (in fact Sony states that games currently on the market are not even close to pushing the system to its full potential), the thought of an even more powerful console looming on the horizon has gamers worried about the holes it will leave burning in their pockets, but giddy at the possibilities of what this new behemoth of a console will be able to pull off. Just imagine the hardware on this thing, it will be insane!
As a result, the question on everyone's mind is, when will the PlayStation 4 see the light of day?!?!? While Sony has not released any official information concerning the system's future launch, the generally accepted release date is pegged as late 2012, which would follow the trend of Sony's previous console generations. The PlayStation 1 was first released in late 1994 in Japan and 1995 throughout the rest of the world. The PlayStation 2 hit stores in 2000, giving the PS1 a retail shelf life of 6 years from its Japanese launch. Likewise, the PlayStation 3 came out in 2006, 6 years after the release of the PS2. Following this trend that Sony has established would give us a late 2012 release for the PS4.
Other rumours have also circulated of late which backs up these claims. At last year's Game Developer's Conference in Germany, the CEO of Crytek announced that his company's development of their next-generation graphics engine, the CryEngine3, will release in 2012, around the same time as the PlayStation 4. Although he stated he had no concrete information that the PS4 would be released around this time, and that even if he did, he would not be at liberty to share that information, he expected this to be the release window of the new system.
It's possible that how the PlayStation 3 fares in the current console war may also determine the release date of the PS4, for a couple of reasons. If the system continues to flounder in 3rd place in the console wars, failing to generate the revenue which was initially expected of it, Sony may be far more eager to cut their losses and rush the PS4 to market sooner rather than later, possibly as early as late 2011.
If the PS3 does indeed fail to make ground on the Wii and Xbox 360, it may also convince Sony to try and jump the gun on the next generation console wars and get their system out the door first. Both the PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2, which dominated their generations of the console wars, came to market at the same time or earlier than their competition. The PlayStation 1 was launched just after the Sega Saturn, and well before the Nintendo 64, while the PlayStation 2 was released before both the Xbox and Nintendo Gamecube.
This enabled Sony to get a head start on the competition and gave developers time to build their skills at developing games for the console, to the point that even as more powerful consoles came after, games released on the older system were just as good technically, providing no real incentive for players to move to the new consoles.
This same effect has worked against the PlayStation 3 to some extent, as though considered to be far more powerful than the Xbox 360, the one year head start the 360 received has allowed developers to more quickly maximize the system's potential, resulting in games that rivaled games on the PS3 when it released. Only as the system's life spans come to an end will we likely see the PlayStation 3 come out with games that clearly trump what the 360 can do graphically.
How Sony plans to play their hand is cause for much speculation. What we do know is that the PlayStation 4 is coming sooner than we may think, and it will take gaming to a whole new level.
Let us know what you think. Will we see the PlayStation 4 within the next 2-3 years, or is the release further off? Feel free to comment below. You can also join our forums to voice your opinion on everything PlayStation.
Update - July 2009 - In a recent interview, Doom and Quake creator John Carmack speculated that Sony will likely attempt to be first to the dance floor with their new console, before Microsoft launches their next console. As talked about above, there is plenty of rationale in this line of thinking. On the other hand, Sony has long maintained they have a long-term plan for the PS3, and with the lower production costs of the new slim model PS3, and the increased sales of the new version, the PS3 may just be coming into its own. Whether Sony will try to launch before Microsoft (by all accounts Nintendo will actually launch first, but they're not considered direct competition to the others like Sony and Microsoft are to each other) remains to be seen. Let us know what you think.
Update - June 2010 - In an interview with Gamespot at this year's E3, Activision COO Thomas Tippl shed some up-to-date, though still quite vague light, on the PS4's future release. When asked when he expected the next generation consoles to release, Tippl stated that it was unlikely they would see release within the next 2-3 years, as Activision still had no information on any new consoles. With development times for next gen games running 2-3 years on average, it makes sense that if the new consoles will come with third party games at launch (a near certainty), it will be at least 2 years from the time third parties first get the development toolkits in their hands to the point where the console releases. In the meantime all we can do is speculate and continue to wait.
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PS3
i have an xbox that i bought 3 years ago when i got back from boot camp. played it for a year then bought a ps3. my xbox has about an inch of dust on it. thats how much i like the ps3 better than the xbox..my opinion
PS3
I would like to say that there isn't one console that beats all. Hear me out, yes the PS3 is the most powerful out of this generation but power isn't everything, it how that power is harnessed. So to stop babbling on i'll say this, the console you think is best is the console that suits your needs best. Whatever those needs may be, one console this generation is surely going to fit them, it may be the Nintendo wii (which is good for those casual gamers who like to play a game of Mario here and there) or the xbox 360 (for those who like a good stable first person shooter series/franchise) and finally the PS3 (For those who have a high definition television and watch blu-rays, and surround for all the media they have stored on media servers and like the great exclusive games and some equally great 3rd party games out there). A bit biased there lol, you can see which console I have xD but you get my drift. I chose the PS3 because it suited my need better than the xbox or wii. So lets stop all this hating and animosity, spread the love we are all wise for choosing what suits us.
And also join the community, use the forums people! Thanks again, Henry.
You know whats the best????
Ps1 Lol.... the PS father and the OrIgInAL PS... the seed of it.. LoL but now.. it is fogotten. poor poor ps1 xD.. ok gudbye lol im here to just give u guys some "advice" ...
oh my god!
you people are so dumb..........i have 2 words 4 u ºremote playº dont know what it is? ur probably an xboob owner look it up on google! lol u dont even have a handheld. (this message brought to you by remote play)
PS3 IS 20 TIMES BETTER!!
the ps3 is better in every single way possible ya the gpu is weaker but who gives a shit i have ps3 and the gaybox elite THE PS3'S GRAPPHICS ARE WAY BETTER face it gaybox fans ps3 dominates
PS3&XBOX
I have both, and got to say PS3 is better, everyone has an opinion. Everyone is different. So it doesn't matter. So in my opinion Playstation 3 is the best.
Plus, It only does everything!
PS3 and Xbox360
Look when both PS3 and Xbox360 was released. PS3 had blue-ray, free internet play, built in wi-fi and internet. For Xbox360 you had to buy a wi-fi adaptor and pay for online play. Xbox lags so much and look how long it took Microsoft to realise that Xbox should of had built in wi-fi, took them 2 years to finally have one built-in in the new Xbox 360 Elite. Plus PS3 works out cheaper than the Xbox, PS3 is now what £280 and the Xbox 360 Elite is £250 (new console), bearing in mind that you need to pay for online, for thats £30-£40. With PS3 all that is free and the games are more clearer than Xbox games.
Therefore just buy a PS3 is far better than the Xbox360.
PS3 came later
All that crap you are spouting, it's because PS3 came out a year After the XBox. They had to throw in some extras or nobody would buy it.
The XBox still has a faster GPU (google PS3 vs XBox GPU), and if you watch a lot of movies, using your super expensive PS3 is stupid. Every device has a life expectancy, why burn out your PS3 watching Toy Story 3 when you can get Blu-Ray devices on Amazon for 60 bucks now?
PS4
I do hope PS4 have backward compabilities to play all version of PS games. (PS One, PS2, PS3 & even PSN)
Ps4
Sony doesn't need to make a PS4. PS3 is as good as it gets and theres nothing to improve, its already perfect i love my PS3
ps4
I think they should release the ps4
Because we are in the age of Technology and face every day, scientists discover new inventions permission to see
So lets see Where did Technologies Games reached and thank you
Ps4
Ps3 is not as good as it gets, you probaly said the same thing about ps2 also, but then there is ps3, and you change your comment again, Ps4 will blow your mind away, ps3 will look like a sega saturn compared to ps4.
PS4
With people like this, technology will never improve... We will be playing PS3 for the next 100 years while Xbox 3600 will probably be dominating the market.
As there is many pages, I do
As there is many pages, I do not feel like going through and reading all of your comments. Most of the developers know what they are talking about. In general, if you were to compare both gaming engines then you would come up with something very much alike. Now with the Xbox 360 which we all know is a Microsoft product. What does Microsoft have? What does Sony not have? Microsoft is one of the richest companies in the world. Sony does have wealth but of course Microsoft outdoes that by a lot. Therefore Microsoft will get the majority of the games due to the payment and the advertisement of the system. It is crazy to sit here and argue about which system is better because in the long run their hardware DOES compare to each other. Yes I will say it and I am a ps3 and 360 owner, that Microsoft does have better gfx in some of their games, but that's because they have more to spend in the development of the game itself. I am not going to ramble on about which system is better and you should not either. Choose whichever system you like, and use it.
PS3
Guys tell me something. Should I get a PS3 now or should I wait for PS4 to release and then buy a PS4?
Give it time
The PS4 will not be out for a long time so I would recommend getting a PS3 slim. Its affordable and fking awesome and it will improve your life tremendously. Girls will look at you differently and bags of cash will magically appear at your doorstep daily. You can thank me later.
Hahaha nice
BEST ANSWER EVERRRRRR!!!!!
HAHA
i love these pussy fanboys that are gizzing all over their ps3s. (i own both) i love playing uncharted series and other ps3 exclusives on that console, and i really liked xboxs recents like AlanWake/Gears/. i'll say though when i have a chance to get a game thats out on both consoles, the fact is, that xbox wins every time. i would rent games on both systems alot of times and EVERY time the xbox had superior graphics and smoother reaction/bett3r lighting/bettersound. I had the 2 systems hooked up to the same tv and there was just no comparison... this doesnt make me like the ps3 any less, i like it just as much. i think when you grow up a bit and have your own cash to get your own systems (instead of mommy or daddy) you appreciate both of them alot more. Anyways, i love how these little feuds on here go forever until a guy that knows about programming (actual facts not blind devotion) posts something relevant/intelligent and everyone has nothing to say... i imagine that if this 14 yr old fanboy reads something truthfull that goes against what he thinks is right, and it happened to be true, his whole self worth and pride would be OBLITERATED!, so to help cope and survive, his brain erases what he just read (the intelligent comment) and starts at square 1.... " NO xbox is SO GAY! ps3 is the future of EVERYTHING! we will one day take showers with our ps3's and their graFFFics are the best and xbox's grafffics arent because its gay and is stupid and sucks all the time and ps3 is the best invention in the whole wide world... cause my dad told me so when he got it!!!!"
seriously?
You losers really care which ones better? I bet all of the ps3 "haters" don't know 2 shits about the damn machine, ands ame for the xbox "haters" But its okay, if you want to waste your time typing up a story on how your system is better than another one, then have a great time.
my friend accualy
my friend acually burned his hand on his xbox because of over heat he even cook a marshmellow and it was perfect xbox overheats tooooo often
..
Why all the hating between the fans of both sides? You all know there are problems on both sides.. For the Xbox its the ring of death & for the Ps3 its the Yellow light of death.. The only big difference for me is the free online gaming on ps3 ;) But theyre both 2 great consoles :)
PS4?
Hey wassup guys!
Im no games developer but I imagine that they will release ps4 within 3 years because of the software being dated I mean crysis on pc easily outshines ps3 now so how good will say pc look and how bad ps3 look. Also If they get serious with 3d gaming, for those of you who dont know decreases the quality of picture decreases compared to 2d HD.
Lastly will all the fanboys screwing the xbox or shoving the ps3 up their arse please go go a life.
>)0.0)>
PS4 is coming
I am excited, except that I bought my PS3 after the tax season so, I am late on buying my PS3 but I love the games! I hope they have a PS3 compatibilities.
Also, why are there Xbox fans on here?
see how they run
i like the ps3 will you send me one?
thanks,matt age 8
i'll start saving.
Yeah....ps4 time!!
PS3
Didn't playstation 3 come out before the xbox 360 , I personally think microsoft stole most of sonys ideas w. The system except the blu ray feature .. they added more memory and hd cables .. boom , and still the ps3 sold wayy more and xbox 360 is a defected system.. anybody remember the " ring of death " ? Whenever you move the system while in game play it ruins the game completely.. not a system id buy unless I wanna spend a lot of money each day on new games .. ps3 has wifi , don't have to buy a $100 wireless adaptor so play online for free.. playstation has plenty of good games , xbox does too , I had an xbox 360 til it ruined all of my games so I sold it for $100 brand new .. on craigslist people want to trade their 360s for PS3s , that tells you a lot .
Well goodbye xbox fans and hello playstation network!
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The 360 was released a year prior to PS3. I own both and I can say while I do prefer playing on my 360, it does occasionally scratch discs. Just don't stand it up, especially WHILE it's on.
why would you be moving your
why would you be moving your console during gameplay anyways? lol you juggle your xbox while playing some whack ass kids game haha
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No, the PS3 came out an entire YEAR after the XBox.
And it came with a slower, less powerful GPU. Please google "Xbox vs PS3 GPU" and enjoy getting smacked in the face.
CELL is overrated and more appropriately used for data warehousing/data mining. It does no graphical rendering of any sort, it relies on the GPU, which is less powerful than the XBox.
ya maybe we should also point
ya maybe we should also point out that ps3 "dumbed down" their design at first thats why the release was delayed if they put it out as it was it wouldve eliminated competition, it was that powerful and also its true they havent used it to its full potential remember kill zone on ps2? that looked like it belonged on the ps3 so just wait till they really push it
Seriously?
Ever hear of untapped potential? No probably not you don't sound like a developer. The spec comparison is based on what the PS3 is -known- to handle. Again you are another that has no idea what they're talking about. Why don't you take your own advice and this time READ everything before only choosing to see what you want to see in order to support your losing argument.
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You kids are something else. I actually *am* a developer. I write code for a small financial institution (ie where the money is at, not in gaming) Anyway, 'untapped potential' sounds like you took a big bite out of the Marketing Brownie. When it comes to games, numbers ARE important. I hope you realize game developers don't write 3D code anymore, right? They call DirectX function calls for all the rendering. Why?? because when you abstract the 3D bits from the developers, they can focus on writing a solid game design and not worry about the rendering aspects as much. The DirectX team spends countless hours fine-tuning and optimizing the 3D-related stuff, and YOU get to focus putting as many objects on screen as you can before the GPU gives out. You don't write 3D rendering algorithms anymore, thats what DirectX and OpenGL are FOR!
The game you write will mostly take advantage of the CPU, because your graphics rendering is abstracted away from you. And unfortunately, on the PS3, you are left with a CELL processor, which moves a lot of data around, but overall, just an average CPU for games. Your overall gameplay looks less impressive because the GPU is wimpy and slow compared to the XBox.
Keep drinking the cool-aid PS3 kiddies.
DirectX? M$ Weenie (aka Fan Boi)
You should go to borders and buy some books. DirectX is microsoft's abstraction layer.
OpenGL is the standard, cross-platform, which ... oh, the PS3 utilizes.
Even with the abstraction of OpenGL and DirectX, as a developer, you either have to write your own engine or buy one and modify it to your game.
Before you start crying, I have all the consoles and am an avid PC gamer. Pick your poison and play. It's been shown time and time again with the Xbox vs PS3. Games released on both, guess what, look VERY VERY similar. Why? They use the same engine (UT3 for example).
If you want to flex some code, get UDK (http://udk.com).
Read Completely
Next time, read my post *completely* before commenting... I clearly know what I'm talking about as I have done some rudimentary game development. I mention OpenGL in the same light as DirectX, if you had read my entire post instead of trying to flame me, you would have understood that.
lets talk about NOTHING
pointless speculation...pointless speculation...speculative pointless speculation...brainless pointless speculation...pointless speculation...ungrounded pointless speculation...pointless speculation...dumb pointless speculation...pointless speculation...more pointless speculation...pointless speculation...ridiculous pointless speculation...groundless pointless speculation...stupid pointless speculation...idiotic pointless speculation...worthless pointless speculation...pointless speculation...endless pointless speculation...
^^ oh sorry about that, just following the trend here. I agree, nobody knows a freakin thing here. I think someone even suggested that Nintendo and Microsoft work together! I can just imagine the thought process... "well they come out with games, they must work together" yeah that sounds about right.
GO NINTENDO!!!!!
btw, PS3 has twice the specs of XBOX 2, even though I like both, PS3 is actually more powerful and has Blu-ray (eat that one ps3 haters). XBOX 2 has better online experience, thats all. even the controllers are dumb. DONE.
the facts
during some point in the good run between Xbox 360 and the PS3 the xbox 360 wont be able to store all the data for the games on one disc (any one remember having to change between disc's ..) here are the spec's on the media types .. Blu-Ray , DVD , and the once $200 add on for Xbox lovers HD-DVD.
BLU-RAY
Media type High-density optical disc
Encoding MPEG-2, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, and VC-1
Capacity 25 GB (single-layer)
50 GB (dual-layer)
100/128 GB (BDXL)
Block size 64 kb ECC
Read mechanism 405 nm laser:
1× @ 36 Mbit/s (4.5 MByte/s)
Developed by Blu-ray Disc Association[1]
Usage
Data storage
1080p High-definition video High-definition audio
stereoscopic 3D
Future possibility:
Quad HD
2160p
Ultra HD
DVD
Media type Optical disc
Capacity 4.7 GB (single-sided, single-layer)
8.5 GB (single-sided, double-layer)
9.4 GB (double-sided, single-layer)
17.08 GB (double-sided, double-layer – rare)
Read mechanism 650 nm laser, 10.5 Mbit/s (1×)
Write mechanism 10.5 Mbit/s (1×)
Standard DVD Forum's DVD Books[1][2][3] and DVD+RW Alliance specifications
HD-DVD
Media type High-density optical disc
Encoding VC-1, H.264, and MPEG-2
Capacity 15 GB (single layer)
30 GB (dual layer)
Read mechanism 1× @ 36 Mbit/s & 2× @ 72 Mbit/s
Developed by DVD Forum
Usage Data storage, including high-definition video,
Finally, someone who gets it!
This entire topic is based on speculation. And why can't we all just get along? I own all three systems. I play PS3 for the graphics, power, and DVD/Blu-ray, Xbox 360 for online gaming (Save me the crap, ps3 fanboys. Most of my friends own an Xbox 360), and I whip out the Wii every once in a while to play a little Super Smash Bros., Mario, or old Nintendo games. They are all JUST game systems in my eyes; not one is better (overall) than the other. Save your rage for real life man (or woman) business.
easy solution
There is a really easy way to solve this... exclusive titles. who cares which system is more powerful, if you like halo, fable, alan wake, mass effect, and gears, buy a 360. If you like uncharted, god of war, heavy rain, metal gear solid, littlebigplanet, infamous, and demon souls, buy a ps3. who really cares which system is "better" buy what you play and play what you like.
Re2: Go NINTENDO!!!!!
"The game you write will mostly take advantage of the CPU, because your graphics rendering is abstracted away from you. And unfortunately, on the PS3, you are left with a CELL processor, which moves a lot of data around, but overall, just an average CPU for games. Your overall gameplay looks less impressive because the GPU is wimpy and slow compared to the XBox. " that should help you get your facts straight and have a nice day :)
Re: Go NINTENDO!!!!!
it must be nice to live in your mind shit for brains. how about using real names not made up one like "xbox 2". secondly, duz any1 rember that bluray blew up because of the p3? if i recall no1 had heard of bluray when the 360 came out. and how is it more powerfull? read the guys comment about how the CPU on the p3 sux and the 360 is actually better. get your facts straight, and have a nice day :)
actually blu ray won because
actually blu ray won because its a better product, and theres more potential for it
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I think you meant to say the XBox controllers are 'better' than the PS3.
xbox controllers are absolutely more ergonomic. The thumb joysticks are not at such extreme uncomfortable angles like the PS3 Dual Stink.
controllers
xbox fans say that xbox controllers are better but they are not what is whit one joy stick in a stupid place the ps3 remotes are way better. ya and it try ps3 has yellow light of death that happened to maybe 500000 people but ring of death happened to at least 1000000 people so ps3 is better on two things a 3rd thing internet free ya xbox can get it free if they pay 100 bucks and by the way bill gates sucks coq he is a nerdy little loser that didn't aprove of xbox for 6 monthes but he probably has an ipod now and a mac because microsoft sucks and what a name microsoft or microsucks and also people hack xbox in minutes it coud take hours to hack ps3 and the remotes for xbox let you do glitches and by the way halo sucks we have the better games little big planet
Xbox Controllers
the Xbox controller is not as good as the PS3 except for FPS games. E.g. play Assassins Creed (1 or 2) on the Xbox and on the Ps. The Xbox controller is massive and clunky and gets in the way of your free running while the DualSHOCK 3 is much better for that. In the end It comes down to the type of game your playing. P.s the Ps3 controller has a name while the Xbox controller is just called the Xbox controller.... go figure
Agreed
There is only one thing that Microsoft will never be able to compete with and that is Bluray. By default the PS3 is superior with a superior medium to work with. Unless Microsoft pays Sony huge amounts of money to license that medium (which is unlikely anyway) the XBOX will always and forever be the PlayStation's annoying little brother always trying to prove himself.
HAHA
I love how none of you know what you're talking about. Thanks for the entertainment on my 15 min break at work.
X-BOX= shit box
The x-box 360 is the biggest piece of shit and the ps3 kicks it's ass and trust me buy a ps3 it's just the best and no other console beats it yet
Wrong XBox Hater. I own Both.
I have both and the X-Box is superior in many ways, not just in my opinion, but by expert data. The 360 is a kickass machine. I love Sony and my P3, but my Xbox is hot too. Some games are better on Xbox, some Ps3. It depends on what effects are in the game frankly.
Tell me how it comperes
No dude. I own XBOX 360 Elite, and it supports 1080i and 1080p. Not so long ago XBOX Elite had a the largest memory on gaming console, now they both have 250g. Personally I think these guys work together. If not, then as long as there`s a competition we`ll get Great technology.
I`m a fan of XBOX and love the idea of streaming videos and music from my computer on my XBOX, watch and record live tv, has a mike so you communicate with whomever you `re playing on line with and it`s upgradable.
Tell me more about PS.
hhhmmmm
if your sucksbox 360 is so awsome from the get go , why the need to upgrade... go ahead do your upgrades that cost you even more money , an the ps3 will still kick its asssss...
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