PS4 Release Date - The Countdown Begins

PS3 is capable of running 218GFlops (4 cores at 4ghz each with 32 apu in each core), the i7 line of processors is only capable of ~69 Gigaflops. Its all the way the games are programmed, they are able to program PC games for much more powerful hardware than console games, because console games are limited to the power of the XBox360, which runs at around 115 GFlops. These numbers are purely limited to the CPU, and do NOT reflect the GPU influence in these numbers, which on some PCs will depending on graphics cards CAN blow away the PS3 console, but it takes multiple high dollar cards.
When factoring in the processing of the GPU the PS3 is capable of 2.018 TFlops, the XBox 360 clocks in at a a measly 355 GFlops, and PC ranges are dependent on your system.

SO, when you say GT5 or BF3, or whatever your comparing to, they ARE better then the consoles are running, but it is limited by what the XBOX can handle, not the PS3. The PS3, even though it is a 6 year old system, can still blow MOST PC systems out of the water if the programmers would write the code for the PS3 system correctly and utilize the power of it, the way they do for PC (which is why you have graphic and audio settings on PC games, so you can set the game to run on your specific PC, turning the settings DOWN on most of them, and Maxing them out on just a few).

Unfortunately we live in a console world right now where our experience is limited to what the puny XBox360 can handle, rather than playing what our PS3 is capable of, why they do not develop games differently for the two is a money game won by Microsoft, and it sucks. PC (which are also ran from a Microsoft brand software (Windows)) games are capable of SO MUCH MORE because they create the games that way. Sony won the hardware battle by far, and XBox should suffer for that, but this current world seems backward, and Sony is suffering instead, because developers will not create the games to run at the capable specs of the PS.

Uh... like the next gen is already here with Wii U and PS Vita. PS4 and Nextbox are overdue for many fans. Besides hopefully we can move on from this era of high-end graphics but crappy games.

Uh... like the next gen is already here with Wii U and PS Vita. PS4 and Nextbox are overdue for many fans. Besides hopefully we can move on from this era of high-end graphics but crappy games.

Consoles may be less powerful, but their more friendly to the average (and usually less computer-oriented) consumer. Usually for a PC to be more powerful than a console (well, not the current gen. anymore) you need to spend a bit more than you would on a console, and you'd have to know what you're doing. with consoles it's just pay, plug in, and go.

I get 100% that PC's have all sorts of advantages, and are pretty much always better than consoles, but know that the consoles have a place still. They're more family-friendly, even those that are more "hardcore" than Nintendo.

Couldn't GT6 and other games like GTA V be released on PS4...?

The answer is yes. And many other games that have been previewed.

No seriously. I mean do you really expect a PS4 a couple more years later when all the news is pointing to a 2013 release?

no way... we have to wait until 2015 or 2016 to see PS4s in the market....

http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323701904578276672168365276.html
they are planning a PS4 unveil on the 20th of February!

One arguement for the PS3 being slightly more superior than the 360 is that the PS3 and its games use Blu-Ray Technology.

im hoping its gonna be over $600 so you little kids cant afford it

While it hasn't been announced yet there's like a 0.00000001% chance that it will come out in 2015/16.
Kaz Hirai has already acknowledged that a sequel is in production, it's only that Sony wants to wait & see what MS is doing before they actually announce.
Sony's Vice President of Home Entertainment Hiroshi Sakamoto has also said that the console will be announced before E3 this year.

Gamestop have said they expect the console to be either launched by the end of this year or early 2014.

Developers like EA have stated that they have titles ready to come out for both the Next Xbox & Next Playstation before the end of the year & it would make very little sense for those companies to release new games for systems that aren't coming out for a year or more from 2014.

While Sony's not in as much of a rush as MS may be to get a new console out & launching a year late didn't really hurt the PS3 (seriously PS3's sold close to 360 numbers on hardware, despite the console coming a year after MS's machine) they don't want to miss out on opportunities to garner more support from 3rd party developers.

I'd say wait for the official announcement, which is apparently not that far away, likely before May, since Microsoft is meant to be announcing well before E3 in June.
It's widely believed by many that PS4 won't have backwards compatibility, but the technology to make that happen isn't very expensive & leaked information on the hardware inside the console recently is making it sound like their will be a new variation of the cell processor & RSX built into the console, along with some amount of XDR RAM to allow for additional processing alongside the new APU in the PS4's design.

IMO at this point it's looking like BC will be a part of the console, mainly because of the above details.
It makes the most logical business & technical sense, given that PSN+ has a massive catalog of PS3 games & they all require the PS3's processing tech & RAM to be able to play those games without hassle.
Adding a slight mod to the rumored AMD Jaguar Cores or an additional Sony made cell/RSX/XDR SOC (System On Chip) would mean playing PS3 games is seamless.
Cell tech is now cheap.
Any loss that this puts into the price of the hardware can be made back from the sale of games & peripherals.

This cell SOC module can be used as a DSP, if it's modded then it can be used to help with additional processing functions, take some strain off of some effects the new games may use.

Not having BC with PS3 games when at least one competitor has that function can have an effect on the selling point of the console, mainly it's a nice function to have, also Sony can use it as a focus because the amazing catalog of HD games that can be almost instantly accessed through PSN+.

Coming back to the release of the console, PS3 is already 6 years old, by 2015 it'll be getting on for 9 years old, that's never going to happen, not when Wii U will be showing it can do many things the PS3 can't graphically, Wii U's install base will probably have hit 30 million console by then, there's zero chance Sony will let their competition gain more brand appeal.
Sony will continue to support the PS3, but PS4 isn't going to wait until 2015, it'll be 2014 at the latest, although more likely it's coming out by the end of this year.

I think ps4 is going to be good only if it is 250 dollares.

Yes, we need a PS4. We need more powerful console. If Sony were not created next generation console and stick with the old one, the old console wouldn't handle the new upcoming games. I have been in this site since 2009. Like I said, I am willing to pay up to $2,000 for a PS4, money is not a problem when it comes to fun.

No. But it would be nice to have a more powerful system.

will u be able to use your old ps3/psn account for the ps4

all of the news point to a release, or at least a mention, this year. sony has just stopped producing the ps2, and game will still continue to be developed for it until this June. i think the same thing will happen with the ps3, especially when you think about how easily a pc can murder a ps3 now. i think you should wait until you can get the ps4, no point in buying the 3 now unless you get ans amazing deal

I know it 2013 but not everyone have access to the internet. Also many people would have crappy internet making for longer download. And people would like the option to trade in a game if they finish or don't like it.